Comments on: “You’re Just a Student,” is an Insult. http://thesiegeonline.net/index.php/admin/2006/07/26/13/%e2%80%9cyou%e2%80%99re-just-a-student%e2%80%9d-is-an-insult/ Awakening the Community at Santa Monica College --- and Beyond Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:20:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Vernonica http://thesiegeonline.net/index.php/admin/2006/07/26/13/%e2%80%9cyou%e2%80%99re-just-a-student%e2%80%9d-is-an-insult/#comment-131 Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:14:38 +0000 http://thesiegeonline.net/index.php/admin/2006/07/26/13/%e2%80%9cyou%e2%80%99re-just-a-student%e2%80%9d-is-an-insult/#comment-131 As an older student I wouldn't expect to experience anything like you described. But I have. At least a couple of times I had to let college employees know that they had better find another way to speak to me. They acted like they were talking to a chld. Its probably true that just about every student at SMC is over 18. If you can die for your country by joining the military and going to fight in Iraq, you deserve to be treated like an adult. I just heard about your webblog. I don't necessarily agree with everything on it, but it seems like a good idea. As an older student I wouldn’t expect to experience anything like you described. But I have. At least a couple of times I had to let college employees know that they had better find another way to speak to me. They acted like they were talking to a chld. Its probably true that just about every student at SMC is over 18. If you can die for your country by joining the military and going to fight in Iraq, you deserve to be treated like an adult. I just heard about your webblog. I don’t necessarily agree with everything on it, but it seems like a good idea.

]]> by: phoenixgenesis http://thesiegeonline.net/index.php/admin/2006/07/26/13/%e2%80%9cyou%e2%80%99re-just-a-student%e2%80%9d-is-an-insult/#comment-130 Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:01:34 +0000 http://thesiegeonline.net/index.php/admin/2006/07/26/13/%e2%80%9cyou%e2%80%99re-just-a-student%e2%80%9d-is-an-insult/#comment-130 I couldn't have said it better! Here's a few nice quote straight from the horse's mouth (Robert Sammis to me) verifying your claims: "The reaction you're going to get from most administrators in any institution is you're a student. We'll take care of that. You're a student. ... Your blog reflects some of that kind of 'I know better how to run this organization than they do.' It does. That's an element of what you have in there." When I didn't comply with going back to being merely a "student", (i.e., taking down my SAVE SMC blog and staying away from SMC's sacrosanct public records), Sammis and Campus Disciplinarian Judith Penchansky, took it upon themselves to unilaterally and severely discipline me in violation of the California Education Code, their own internal policies and other federal and state laws. Perhaps its far time Santa Monica College, acting through its administrators, shed its mantle of "in loco parentis" and let us contribute to the college's governance as a constituency group worthy of equal merit as responsible adults and not treat us as mere children who need to be scolded for our diverse viewpoints and exercise of our civil liberties and Student Bill of Rights (shhh ... you're not supposed to know that we have a Student Bill of Rights - that's a well kept secret). I couldn’t have said it better! Here’s a few nice quote straight from the horse’s mouth (Robert Sammis to me) verifying your claims:

“The reaction you’re going to get from most administrators in any institution is you’re a student. We’ll take care of that. You’re a student. … Your blog reflects some of that kind of ‘I know better how to run this organization than they do.’ It does. That’s an element of what you have in there.”

When I didn’t comply with going back to being merely a “student”, (i.e., taking down my SAVE SMC blog and staying away from SMC’s sacrosanct public records), Sammis and Campus Disciplinarian Judith Penchansky, took it upon themselves to unilaterally and severely discipline me in violation of the California Education Code, their own internal policies and other federal and state laws.

Perhaps its far time Santa Monica College, acting through its administrators, shed its mantle of “in loco parentis” and let us contribute to the college’s governance as a constituency group worthy of equal merit as responsible adults and not treat us as mere children who need to be scolded for our diverse viewpoints and exercise of our civil liberties and Student Bill of Rights (shhh … you’re not supposed to know that we have a Student Bill of Rights - that’s a well kept secret).

]]> by: Donny Johnson http://thesiegeonline.net/index.php/admin/2006/07/26/13/%e2%80%9cyou%e2%80%99re-just-a-student%e2%80%9d-is-an-insult/#comment-124 Thu, 27 Jul 2006 01:54:26 +0000 http://thesiegeonline.net/index.php/admin/2006/07/26/13/%e2%80%9cyou%e2%80%99re-just-a-student%e2%80%9d-is-an-insult/#comment-124 How about: If you were an adult, we wouldn't try to pull any of this shit. You might punch our lights out! How about: If you were an adult, we wouldn’t try to pull any of this shit. You might punch our lights out!

]]> by: Skyrocket http://thesiegeonline.net/index.php/admin/2006/07/26/13/%e2%80%9cyou%e2%80%99re-just-a-student%e2%80%9d-is-an-insult/#comment-122 Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:04:39 +0000 http://thesiegeonline.net/index.php/admin/2006/07/26/13/%e2%80%9cyou%e2%80%99re-just-a-student%e2%80%9d-is-an-insult/#comment-122 ROTFL!!! Dude! ROTFL!!! Dude!

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